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Nov 27 12 6:32 AM

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have you heard this yet??
dj Warren Peace full of chat and good music.
I may not agree with everything he says but at least he's stirring it up..
The latest is can you be too old to be a Mod??

Personaly I dont think you can be too old to be a Mod ( I would say that)
but dont try and kid on your still 16, older Mods dont wear jam shoes anymore (hopefully)
We get our suits altered ,we have style, ...What do you think??

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bazchoochoo

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Nov 27 12 9:40 AM

I would love to have the balls to wear a pair of Jam shoes,maybe if I lived in Italy I might get away with it! Back to your question,I think you're never too old to be a Mod. Yes you get more stylish as you get older, lose the Jam shoes for nice brogues perhaps and you can afford to get a decent suit and get it altered to fit the expanding waistlines .

Personally I love the whole get-up of the clothes,dressing smart,and it is nice to get complimented on your own individual style.
Last week someone complimented on my 'street-style' culture that designers look out for to see what people are wearing so that they can copy and mass produce,as we've all seen in certain chain stores!

Keep The Faith....modernism is a way of life...

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Nov 27 12 1:51 PM


Can't really argue with what he is saying John on that Podcast, he is right that Mods should have a bit of style about them.To to be honest I find myself getting a bit pissed off by these Mod guidelines & rules ( although one could argue there are no real guidelines), I think one should feel right with how they look, and Mod wise in my opinion that means looking smart and adhering to some details that are staples of elegance be it smart or casual, also I think it important to try and look modern and not like someone off to a fancy dress ( Although I could be accused of this myself sometimes !!)

His issue about will Mod die out is a valid point, although there is lots of Mod/ Soul clubs on in around the country at the moment, most in attendance are over 35 so will a younger person of 19 be interested in going to these night no matter how good the music is, I suppose in Ireland we are lucky to have a few good young Modish bands such as The Stripes,The Urges & Resoul, and hopefully they can get a younger crowd into it







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Nov 27 12 2:32 PM

I have to agree about the Mod do's Collie, I always think at these do's with 90% over 30's in attendance the 17 year old me would not have been caught dead in a place like that.
So its up to the new young bands as you say to attract the new breed..
As for the rules the answer is there are none, but every Mod knows the boundaries as we constantly push them. My big gripe is with part timers that only dress up at weekends, thats what I call fancy dress whats that all about??
If this podcast is good for anything at least its getting us thinking about what we're at..where as Eddie Pillars modcast is a bit more cosy he really does'nt offend anyone which has its place. This guy Warren Peace has more attitude (more Mod) did you hear what he said about Ian Page of Secret Affair I thought he was spot on "Time for Action" Time for a diet More like :-)

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Nov 27 12 2:58 PM

Yeah what he said about Ian Page was so true.. man I loved Glory Boys when I first heard it but when I saw them in Dublin a few years back I kept thinking he have a heart attack with the sweat pumping off him. 

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Nov 28 12 4:12 AM

Weller called Paige a "pratt; a failed punk" who jumped on the Mod bandwagon in '79 after punk had well and truly died.......now I'm no 6 pack but he needs to watch the tummy if he's up on stage wearing clobber......although I'm not a big fan of his suits with the velvet lapels........

The age thing is a big worry.......it's especially worrying when it appears that some people refer to me as being "young and the next generation"!!! I'm 35 for fucks sake......what does that say about the current scene.......in fact I feel an academic paper coming on......i can see the title and abstract now...."Why there is no youth in contemprary youth subcultures"!!!!!!!

or......."Youth Explosion?: More like Middle Age spread in todays not so young youth subcultures"......I'm away off to write this......

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Dec 16 12 9:49 AM

I know this is a bit of a turn around but I'm already bored with Warren peace...
yes I'm fickle..
But the 1st and 2nd podcasts were different and more stir it up stuff.
since then I've heard 2 more and he more or less keeps battering about the same old thing.
slagging of obvious Mod stuff like targets/Quad/parka's then promoting them...
make your mind up mate, !!!
think he just try's to shock with no coherance to his arguement.
Back to Eddie Pillars Modcast for me. It was a good one this month with 
Miles Kane, And Andy Lewis..
Or maybe we could start up our own modcast, now that would be fun

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Jan 3 13 10:53 AM

I've been listening to this for a few months now. Drives me crazy he does, but 1) I can't stop listening and 2) I will say that the show and Peace are the only one's out there talking about this stuff that we NEED to talk about. Can't always say I agree but I remember an old show he did on mods and fear of technology and it was bang on. Debate about modernists embracing the modern (ipod etc). I listen to Eddie also, but I like the harsher style and I don't think it's about the shock factor. It's about waking us up. I'd rather hear Weller called to the carpet than hear what Miles Kane had for breakfast. Get us thinking and more importantly talking about these things. I'm with you on Jam shoes. I'm 30 so that would seem to me to be ridiculous. I'm determined to age gracefully...and mod (although I still have an old pair and it's tempting!)

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Jan 3 13 3:39 PM

well said mate, I agree that it gets us talking, and that alone is good.
I dont like the way he calls people names if they dare dissagree though.
I find myself agreeing with a lot of things he says but then he tends to contradict it 
for example... he said he did'nt like twist and go scoots then said they were cool??
slagging targets and obvious Mod related stuff then filling his facebook page with them??
and NO pics of himself ?? 
I like a debate as long as you hold true to your beliefs and not just argue for the sake of it..

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Jan 3 13 10:50 PM


With you there mate. I heard him speak out aginst 'scooter snobs' (in The US I think it was)for giving the young kids are hard go of it for not being able to afford vinatge non-automatic scoots. I like this becuause my young nephew has a new plastic one. Shite but he aspires to get a GS one day, lol. It was good to hear the young mods have a voice and I like that he gets generation 1 and teen mods perspectives through interviews. I have to admit my Vespa is pretty 'bling' so hearing him slag off the 'carnival float' scooters annoyed me...so it's give and take. Also like the take on hight street mod clothing brands (Dont let Liam Gallagher determine what you wear with his Asain sweatshop crap) Classic! The  fb site I like, especially as they started the Mods For Mash Campaign to save the pie &mash that appeared in Quadrophenia and wa/is in danger of being closed by the council. Owned by the same family for years and the site took up for the cause. Loved it. Still, I agree he contradicts himslef. 
This is a great forum by the way. Great topics to discuss.


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Jan 4 13 10:53 AM

tis a good wee site mr beatlebum :-)
but like most sites these days seem to have less traffic as most are on facebook..
cest la vie

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Jan 6 13 12:13 PM

That pie and mash shop is the biz......one of the few remaining......my parents stayed out in K West Hotel in Shepherds Bush in 2008 and we joined them for 2 nights but sure I just walked around the Bush looking at all these sites from the film at Shepherds Bush Market, Goldhawk Road tube station, Original Goldhawk Club (which looks nothing like the one used in the film)......it's amazing how some places really don't change at all over time......but the Cooke's Pie and Mash shop was also used by Townshend, Irish Jack and Barnsey for their conversation about Mods on the recent documentary 'Can You See The Real Me?'......

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Jan 6 13 6:43 PM

It's iconic not doubt. They have a habit of tearing down iconic landmarks don't they. The Cavern, The Hacienda, The Wigan Casino. Shite, they even moved the Abbey Road zebra crossing 20 yards up the street. This pie and mash is in danger of being replaced by a Tescos. More jobs yes but another one bites the dust. 

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Jan 7 13 12:52 PM

I thought the pie and mash place was being levelled to accomodate a bew road........shit......are you sure Abbey Road crossing was moved 20 yards???? I was sure I was walking the footsteps of history and I stood there for ages looking at the original picture and where I was standing and I was sure it was the same spot. when was it moved.....

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Jan 13 13 11:10 AM

You might be right about the road rather than a Tescos. There are conflicting stories. Abbey Road move is definite although they were, at one point moving it back so you may have been lucky. I knew someone involved in the whole debacle. Good debate on the show this week about 'Sir Wiggo'. Not sure how I fee labut this. Woring class lad. Seems a bit too 'establsihment' for me.

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Jan 13 13 12:32 PM

yeh I enjoyed this one a bit more..
good debate as you say about wiggo.. to be honest I'm sick hearing about him.
seems like a nice lad but... a knighthood Bollocks.. and see this need to have a "aceface" to follow
Take no heroes only inspiration....
I enjoyed the debate with Patrick Foisy  about mixing it up clothes wise ..interesting
and the music was good.
Loved the way he slated pretty green and their rip of prices ..all good debate

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Jan 14 13 2:55 AM

Yeah I have to agree.......getting a bit tired of the old Wiggo thing......plenty of other people out there other than sports stars who also have exceptional taste in music and clothes.....this is going on a wee bit too long. Seems like a nice fella.......totally disagree with all that hierarchical establishment non-sense.....some are saying that he deserves "recognition"......of course he does and I'm sure he gets plenty of it from his peers in cycling......he certainly got it when he won Tour De France, etc......he's all over the bloody media the whole time.....just because some archaic, inbred, hierarchical, self-serving system called "Royalty" gives him a title don't amount to recognition to me........he'd be much better off heading down a pub in the East End or Soho and get some recognition from some real human beings.

Us humans tend to cite our superiority over the non-human world; well I don't see dogs in the street bowing to higher dogs.....and animals don't give each other titles; so humans shouldn't do it either. Royal families of whatever nationality and institutions like them are trumpeted messages to us all that equality is a myth and we are not all born in an equal way. Any Mod worth his socks and trousers shouldn't buy into those corrupt and vile tenets or ethics.

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Jan 14 13 12:30 PM

Gilly- you convinced me mate ;) lol. I think there will be repercussions, which is ashame as I understand he (Bradley) is a nice fellow and he was/is a good spokesman for mod but it's all the bloody time now. Enough already. 
John- I HAAAAATTTTEEE Pretty Green, so I'm with you there mate. Quality is shocking and the pricing is, fankly, offensive. It's interesting to see where mod and non-mods fall on this. There was a post on the WATM facebook site (which must have been before the show)- an open letter to their designer I think, asking why PG have come out and denied being mod after an advertising campaign with Liam recreating scenes from Quadrophenia. 

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Jan 14 13 12:50 PM

I don't get this whole thing about PG......first of all, look back at pics of Oasis during the 90's......for a lot of the time they were scruffy as fuck......baggy jeans and all that......give you a quote from Weller from a few years ago:

"I knocked about with Oasis one day, hung out with them all day before they played a big gig that night. Now when I go on tour I take suits, dozens of shirts, an assortment of scarves, lots of shoes and then they went on the stage that night in the same clothes they'd been wearing that day and I just thought to myself; 'fucking scruffy northerners'"

Liam started this clothing thing in 2009 and it was deliberately targetting high st Mods.......the promo clip from Brighton, the Quadrophenia exhibition, the bands that play gigs in the stores plus the DJ's......it's all linked to or attempting to establish links with Mods......sure he even managed to convince Weller to design some gear........it's way over-priced. Some of the suit jackets look good.....and the grandad tops also look good and they do good reductions after has run......but boating jackets for 500 sterling and parkas for something similar......you'd get quality bespoke for less.

That said it's still better than the usual herd that pack our streets with jeans and trainers or the ubiquitous tracksuits

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Jan 14 13 4:20 PM

yeh I dont like pretty green for the reasons you guys mentioned..
and as you say Gilly early pics of the gallagher bros show them up for being scruffy..
my pet hate is a shirt not tucked in 
But I went to see them in Derry back in 2000 I think. and the amount of young ones there calling themselves Mods was great. Right enough Ocean Colour Scene were playing (a far better band) as well.
My point being they without doubt influenced a lot of young Mods in the 90's..
and I like Liams fuck you attitude 
But he's not a Mod...
 

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